| Imagine meeting Beyonce and Jay-Z backstage.
Cool, right? Now imagine meeting them while wearing
feathers, squirrel tails and a thong. For Philip
Sahagun, it was another surreal moment of his
extreme warrior's journey. In 2009, Philip was a
performer for Tina Turner's eight-month, eighty-show
World Tour. He was part of a four-man troupe of
martial artists including Justice Smith, Xin Wuku
and Danny Sre, dubbed the "Ninjas." "We had to do
this number called Thunderdome, which was a Mad
Max parody," recalls Philip. "We would do two
minutes intro-ing her song with weapons and crazy
acrobatics. The curtain would close and then I would
see it and cut it down with a sword. And then Tina
Turner would be in the middle with the whole band.
That was cool. Then we'd do stuff around her and
finally, after that scene, there was fireworks and
it was halftime. So we go to the back, myself, Xin
and our friend Justice, this huge, huge guy. And
we're wearing these squirrel-feather costumes,
Velcro across the body, thongs in the back with
these like Capri-looking pants. We busted through
some double doors, open it and there's Beyonce right
there. Beyonce looks at us and she's like, 'Oh my
goodness!' And we're going, 'Oh my gosh. It's
Beyonce.' We just kept walking by. And Jay-Z was
around the corner and it's like, this is a really
crazy gig." Touring with a diva like Tina Turner,
Philip met celebrities like Oprah, Denzel
Washington, Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise. After
Philip complimented Cruise on The Last Samurai,
Cruise told Philip, "I really like your swordwork,
and when you wield that, it makes me want to go back
and practice." As a 7-time National Weapons
champion, a 3-time International Martial Arts
Council Grand Champion, and a two-time member of the
USAWKF Traditional Wushu Team, Philip has earned
plenty of accolades on the tournament floor. With
roots in Kenpo Karate and kickboxing, he found the
transition to modern wushu challenging. His
evolution to a martial arts performer was completely
unexpected. "I feel really lucky to have fallen into
this strange niche where I can do stuff like that,"
adds Philip. "I'm real fortunate."
From Kenpo Karate to Modern Wushu
In China, being born to a martial family is
commonplace amongst champions and masters. It's
unique in America. Philip's father is Joaquin
Sahagun, a 6th degree black belt in Kenpo Karate as
well as a boxing and kickboxing coach. Philip
admits, "I was really bad at martial arts when I was
little. I didn't think I had talent. My family
didn't really think I had talent. I actually lacked
a lot of discipline. And I had to test for my orange
belt about six times. It took me about six years to
get an orange belt. That's also because my dad was a
teacher. It was pretty hard."
But Philip stuck it out. He fought in the martial
arts circuit, but was never completely satisfied
with competition fighting. "When you're part of that
in competition, you're ultimately trying to hurt
people," says Philip. He didn't feel bad about
fighting, but he also didn't feel that such
competition was the best measure of his skills.
Slowly, he felt himself drawn to forms competition
and the Chinese martial arts. He was happier working
weapons than donning gloves. Of course, that didn't
sit well with his father. "It had two sides to it
because my father is a very traditional karate and
boxing guy," says Philip. "He always wanted me to
fight. When I found the weapons and things, he was
happy, but every other day he would be like, 'Stop
swinging that stick! Get in the ring!' Sometimes I
would be okay with it. Sometimes I would be really
hurt because I put a lot of time into practicing."
Eventually, his father saw his son's passion and did
what a good father master might do. He sent Philip
to China.
Philip went to train under one of Shaolin's
leading folk masters, Zhu Tianxi. It was a
revelation. Philip recalls, "I went to China and saw
a little bit - the spirituality and the things that
surrounded wushu practice - that it really wasn't
about fighting. It was about the hardship. And the
hardship can teach you a lot because when you're 70
or 80 years old, all of your fighting skill will
fall victim to your age. We can be overtaken by
someone half our age. What's left? Why train martial
arts and beat up your body to get such high levels -
the iron skills and things - and you're left with
nothing? So eventually I found that there was more
for me - not to say that there's not more for others
- in Chinese martial art practice than there was in
Kenpo and kickboxing. But I definitely respect what
it taught me and I've kept that training with me
because it helped enrich what I took out of Chinese
martial arts."
It was a challenging transition. Being brought up
in American Kenpo barely prepared him for China.
"Chinese martial arts and Kenpo, at least from the
wushu standpoint, is world's apart. There's a lot of
systems in Chinese martial arts so we're speaking
about wushu specifically. If you touch your toes in
Kenpo, you're fine. And in wushu, it's like the
first day, 'Let's drop into the splits, everybody.'
I was like, 'What's that?' That was a really big
transition. And it was a bit of a culture shock, to
be honest, because you're used to stances that are
so high and all of a sudden you're dropping down
low. It hurts and you don't really understand why.
It's like, 'What is this training for?' I know a lot
of very progressive martial art thinkers who kind of
cast away that type of basic training and say it's
unnecessary and it's impractical because you can't
fight in these stances or you can't do your
techniques. But for me, I found after going through
that type of basic training - drop stances, empty
stances, things like that - when I moved back into
the fighting arts, I was greatly advantaged in terms
of speed and things like that. So I give it a lot of
respect, but it was a very hard transition."
Kung Fu Star
Philip's life skyrocketed with a reality TV show, a
martial arts contest called Kung Fu Star, or
K-Star for short. K-Star auditioned
talent from all over the world and was a huge hit in
China. It was also a big hit with Philip's dad. "I
don't think I really got acceptance from him until I
entered Kung Fu Star. That was 2006. I was
actually encouraged from my father and my friends to
do it. I didn't want to do it at first. I thought it
was kind of cheesy. The whole concept was some kind
of martial arts tour, going to different places,
where they were trying to pick out martial artists
to send to China. I was like, 'Well, what are they
going to do there?' They said, 'We are possibly
going to have you fight, do forms, do weapons, do
extra talent.' 'Well, what's an extra talent?'
'Well, sing or dance or do something like that.'
'Singing or dancing? No, that doesn't sound
right.'(laughs).
"I didn't want to do it but ultimately I went to
see what it was about. I met some really good
martial artists there - D.Y. Sao and Jack Tu ended
up going with me. I developed some good friendships.
That show had about 300 million viewers and we had
to do a lot of live performances. We went down to
the Shaolin Temple.
"When I came back, my family was pretty proud of
that. They didn't expect that. They were like,
'Philip did what? He went to China? I can't believe
he even went to China! That's pretty good.' I went
there for training before but never as a
representative for something. And though a lot of
people have a lot to say about what K-Star
was, I think it was an amazing experience. For
everyone involved that I know who made it to China,
it changed their lives - the way that they practice
martial arts and the way they do stuff. It's very
different now."
Jackie Chan's Disciple
K-Star wasn't the end of Philip's Chinese
Reality TV competition career. Philip elaborates,
"After K-Star, all of a sudden a flyer came
through and Jackie Chan has his own. I was like,
'Man, K-Star was so much fun. Maybe I should
just try it.' But I saw that Jackie Chan only wanted
Chinese people. I called the executives and said,
'Hey, what's the deal with this competition?' I was
speaking in Chinese. They said, 'Oh yeah, you can
come over and do the tryouts. By the way, anyone
that you bring'- because I said I wanted to bring
some friends - 'has to be Chinese.' 'Well, I'm not
Chinese.''What? You're not Chinese?' Ultimately I
wound up bringing some friends of mine who were of
Asian descent - Urban Ninja and a couple other
Shaolin practitioners. I went with them to the
trials. They hired one of the executives from
Beijing TV and he sees me sitting down and he sends
someone who speaks English to come talk to me. They
said, 'Come here,'and they sat me down at the table
and said, 'Aren't you Philip from the Kung Fu
Star?' I said, 'Yes.' They said, 'Oh. Are you
going to try out for this?' I said, 'I can't.' They
said, 'Well, you did Kung Fu Star. We know
you're good. It's okay. Just try out. You can tell
us you're Chinese.' I was like, 'Come on. You can't
fake that.' They said, 'No, no, no. Just go do the
trials.' I was like, 'Oh. Okay. Cool.' So I was
dressed in my normal clothes. I said 'alright'and I
did.
"I was the only non-Asian in Disciple. It
was kind of funny. It was kind of hard too because
everyone was looking at me saying, 'Who is this guy?
How did he get by?' And at that time, some of the
contestants knew about K-Star and said,
'Okay, he's done this before.' So then the first
night when I performed, I got really sick. I got the
flu. I have a bad tendency for going overseas and
getting sick. I'm trying to talk to the judges,
trying to introduce myself, and they're like, 'We
can't understand you.' And I was like, 'I'm just
going to do this whip form and I'm going to start,
alright?' 'Okay.'
"And then all the Chinese competitors - everybody
- were in that room because when we were doing the
test shots, some were in, some were out. But when I
was about to go, everybody was checking me out. Even
the custodians were looking. It was kind of funny
but I enjoyed it. It was good. We had to do some
acting, which was weird. I had never done that,
especially in Chinese, so that was kind of
interesting. And you know how Chinese acting is. It
was fun. I got to do an acting skit with one of the
guys from The Karate Kid. He's now one of
Jackie Chan's stunt men. He's a little guy but he
hits so hard."
Ninjas and Kung Fu Heroes
After Jackie Chan's Disciples, Philip came
home and considered pursuing college again. But he
got a phone call from a friend who was the
choreographer for Tina Turner's 50th Anniversary
Tour. "He said, 'Tina Turner has this idea. She
wants some guys like ninja people who can do martial
arts. Do you know anybody like that?' I said, 'Yes,
I think I know a few people.' So I send him a video
of D.Y. and Xin and some of the guys from South
Coast Martial Arts. They said, 'These guys are
great. We're going to use you for James Bond because
we like your look and everything.' I was like,
'Really? Okay. That's cool.' It was an amazing
experience." To Philip, Tina was the best, most
gracious host, who took great care of everybody on
her staff. The tour sold out around the world and
Philip feels blessed to have been a part of it. "How
many martial artists get to do that?"
In 2010, Philip joined several like-minded
practitioners to form Kung Fu Heroes. Adding to
Philip's TV show resume, Kung Fu Heroes were
contestants on season five of America's Got Talent.
It was an extraordinary showcase for martial arts on
American TV. The performance troupe managed to get
as far as the semi-finals.
Wushu Jumps and Kicks for the People
Philip stands tall at six feet, taller than most
martial trickers, gymnasts or aerialists. Typically,
that's too tall to get the aerodynamics for extreme
tricks. Nevertheless, like any wushu practitioner,
Philip attempted to master the difficult moves of
international competition (nandu). A failed
720 twist to splits brought him crashing to earth
with a torn hamstring. "I liked the practice wushu
was giving me - more flexible, stronger - so I'm
going to go for the jumps. I'm going to try to jump
the highest. I'm going to try and have a good
nandu technique. Ultimately, I ended up getting
injured. I tried one of those 720 twists to split,
and at that time I was very ready - well, I thought
I was very ready to do a lot of those moves. And
with that young ego trying to throw the move, I was
successful a couple of times. Then I got a phone
call (I'm not going to say who called me) but I sat
down for about 15 minutes, put the phone back down,
went to go run it and throw it again - my hamstring
instantly tore. I was like, 'Oh my gosh.' I couldn't
really walk. I had trouble getting up. That really
hurt. And it didn't go away for about 8 months. I
had to do rehabilitation. Tried yoga. Tried a lot of
things to bring it back. I couldn't lay on the floor
and push my hips up off the floor using that leg. It
was gone. It took a lot to bring it back."
The experience made Philip reevaluate his
practice. "During that time I was really depressed.
I cried to my coaches - I have a couple different
coaches - and I was like, 'Is this really your
practice? What's this all about?' I'm very much into
martial philosophy and I was thinking where was I
going? What's the point? Where's the martial in
that? And what's the direction? One could argue that
the martial in that was that you were self
disciplining, getting that perseverance. And I agree
to an extent. There is a martial focus associated
with jumping. But you can't get lost in it. You
can't let it overwhelm your practice." Philip
decided not to pursue international wushu
competition anymore. "For me, I still like jumping.
I'm a performer. I perform a lot. So I keep it up.
But I don't worry so much about 'let's make this do
that.' All my friends blow out their knees or hurt
themselves eventually. You have to play it safe."
Working outside the conventional martial circles,
Philip discovered a keen interest in the jumps and
falls of wushu. "In doing a lot of shows and meeting
a lot of people, there's a lot of interest coming
into the martial arts based on the performance side
from a lot of different angles. There's the wushu
guys who want to learn how to do a little more
stunt-oriented stuff. There's the trickers who want
to learn how to look a little bit more wushu.
There's just the people off the street who look at
it. There's the whole youtube phenomenon of 'martial
artists are pretty cool. I like this stuff.'" In
response, Philip developed the first instruction
series on wushu jumps and falls that can be used by
dancers, gymnasts, parkour enthusiasts and martial
arts trickers from outside Chinese styles. "I think
we did a really good job of breaking it down and
making a good training program. I just want to make
it really accessible, open to the public - purchase
to learn or purchase to see the different kinds of
moves that can be done through martial arts training
and performance stuff.
"In Part 2 of the DVD we're doing falls. That's
something I feel has not been covered very well in
the western market. When I went to China, I already
knew how to fall and do falls. They were like, 'How
do you know how to fall?' Well, my dad's my teacher
and we would fight. He made me fall. He would throw
me and stuff. You had to learn how to fall out of
necessity. I had an affinity for falling over
jumping for a long time because I knew falling. I
didn't know jumping because that was closer related
to Kenpo. In my mind, I hold falling in a little bit
higher regard martial-wise, because I think there's
a lot of discipline, more so than people might think
when you're actually falling, because not only could
you put yourself through that type of hardship, but
it's a real mental character building thing. It's
one thing to tell a student, 'Hey, let's throw 30
straight punches,'but it's another thing to say,
'Hey, you're going to jump and fall down, land
straight on your back, and then kip back up.' That's
a punishment that you have to endure, persevere and
overcome. And then you have this confidence
afterward. It's like, 'I can overcome that.' It's
like the Shaolin guys who balance on spears. It's
almost a doorway to that kind of thing. I enjoy that
more than just the tricks and the nandu and
landing something to horse stance. I think it's more
close to martial arts."
Returning to Traditional Shaolin
From Kenpo to modern wushu to James Bond, Philip is
now back to training the root of Chinese martial
arts, Shaolin kung fu. "I love traditional Shaolin.
To me, traditional Shaolin is that connection
between my Kenpo and my wushu because before it's
like English and Chinese. It doesn't make sense.
That was the bridge that helped connect it. Shaolin
kung fu, that's a culture. That's a real big
culture, not just talking about martial arts.
"Shi Yanxu is my current Shaolin mentor. He's
opened up my understanding of martial arts and
philosophy a lot. I remember the first form I had to
learn was in K-Star, dahong boxing, in
Shaolin Temple. Yan kuan taught it, who is now in
San Francisco. Shi Yanxu was the head of the 18
Lohan, who were the warrior troupe at that time?He
sought me out to say, 'Philip, you know when you
came to Shaolin Temple and you learned the dahong
boxing, you only were there for about 2 and a half
weeks. I want to make sure that if you're running
around, and people ask you, 'What did you learn at
Shaolin?' you do it right. I'm going to help you
with dahong boxing.' I said, 'Okay.'
So he started teaching me a little bit and I'm
very grateful, but my Western curiosity started to
get the better of me and I said, 'Come on, Yanxu,
what's all this stuff for? It's kind of weird -
punches like this (shows tight punch).''That's not
punching. It's grappling. Well, it could be
punching.' 'Well, how do we apply this stuff?' And
he looks at me and he says in English, 'I don't
know.' 'You're a Shaolin monk! What do you mean you
don't know?! You can't say that to me! Burst my
bubble. Don't say that!' And he goes, 'No, I don't
know.' 'Yanxu stop teasing me. Be real. What are you
talking about? And then he's like, 'Alright Philip,
look. As a teacher, I could ruin your development if
I tell you to do it this way. Because the minute I
say to do it this way, I could ruin your chances to
explore the possibility of discovering to do it
another way. For instance, this is my favorite way
to do this move.' And he shows me this application
that I would never had thought of which was some
kind of head grab throw - for that particular move.
And then he's like, 'You can't do that if the person
is shorter than you. You can't do that. I'm shorter.
I can use my leverage. So for you, you have to flow
through your moves, feel that possibility of change.
What is my strongest attribute to create my form?'
"Then it started to make sense because I've met
other monks and they always have their own versions
and interpretations. So this martial art has to be
my personal feeling that's based around the ancient
structure of that. I gave it that respect, and for
me that opened a whole other door to my Kenpo
teaching. Because there's a lot of western teaching,
they have the sheets. They have the 100 techniques -
very clean self-defense movements and applications.
But ultimately it's like how many moves or
techniques can you do against a right punch? How
many are you willing to keep? You have to throw away
some anyways. So I think the Chinese approach is
rather interesting. Instead of giving you a bunch of
techniques and you only keep two, they give you two
techniques and you're supposed to make a bunch of
different uses.
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